Don Crittenden
#0
I recently purchased a bullboxer pit from a local guy and was wondering if people recognize this breed in the pitbull world. When I got it I didnt know that hey were called that untill I did research on the internet. Problem is I cant find anyway to register her. Her mother is a full blooded American pit bull terrier and the father is a full blooded boxer. She looks just like a pit bull though. I want to be part of the pit bull community but I kinda feel like I'm on the outside with her. In the near future I want to purchase a Razors Edge pit bull as a companion to her. I just want some input from the pit bull world.
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Don V
#1
Well I will say. I dont think you will be able to get her registered because the mother is a pit and the father is a boxer, your dog is not a full breed. All registries require certain standards for a breed and with her being a mix she wont meet those standards.

I would also recommend that you get her spayed cuz really she is not a full breed and if she was to breed with a boxer or a pit it would create a different kind of dog that would not meet standards. If she was to have pups with another full Pit it will not help the breed but can be a good pet but not an APBT.
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Don V
#2
Sorry, i forgot to add, if you breed your dog with a pit you will be bringing all the health problems that boxers have into the razors edge bloodline and its not helping the breed or bloodline.

But, i am glad to know that you are interested in the pit bull breed.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
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Blaze_N_Pits
#3
Since your pooch is half purebred APBT and half pure bred Boxer, then your pooch would be considered a 'hybrid'. So if both the mother and father are registered through the UKC, I believe that you could register your pooch as a Hybrid through them.
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Don V
#4
ok I stand corrected but I did look this up and found this:

Bullboxer Pit

Boxer / American Pit Bull Terrier Hybrid

The Bullboxer Pit is not a purebred dog. It is a cross between the Boxer and the American Pit Bull Terrier. The best way to determine the temperament of a mixed breed is to look up all breeds in the cross and know you can get any combination of any of the characteristics found in any of the breeds in the hybrid. Not all of these designer hybrid dogs being bred are 50% purebred to 50% purebred. It is very common for breeders to breed multi-generation crosses.

Recognized Names:
American Canine Hybrid Club = Bullboxer Pit
Designer Dogs Kennel Club = American Bull Boxer

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/b/bullboxerpit.htm

Hopefully this will help you out.
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Blaze_N_Pits
#5
Good info. Wiz Kid.... And if they were to breed there hybrid APBT/Boxer to another purebred APBT... then they would have a 75% APBT / 25% Boxer hybrid.
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Don V
#6
That is true I found this out through what I think is the better Registry: Designer Dogs Kennel Club States

In order to address the needs of all Designer Breeders, DDKC has created two registries. We now accept more dogs and puppies!

All dogs registered in the DDKC Premier Registry must have its pure breed foundations in sires and dams that are/were registered with the AKC, UKC, Canadian Kennel Club, any FCI member registry, or a recognized active breed club registry. Only after the proof of the purebred sire and dam will the litter and/or dog (and any descending litters and/or dogs be registered). This is why we have provided a discount for multiple registrations. That way, breeders that have several generations of designer/hybrid dogs through their kennels are able to register their entire kennel's genealogy in one transaction. Afterwards, future litters can be registered one by one.

Dogs registered in the DDKC Classic Registry may have sires and dams from any other pure breed registry. If one parent is registered with an DDKC Premier Registry approved pure breed registry, and the other is registered with another registry, then the offspring is automatically registered in the Classic Registry.

Our registry pedigrees will include breed, color, variety (toy - standard), and generation (F1 - M). Each dog will receive and individual number indicating breed, breeder (owner of dam), gender, litter number and individual dog number. Each registered dog will receive a 3 generation pedigree embossed with our distinguished seal of authenticity.

By our definition, Toy is a maturity level of less than 12 inches and/or less than 12 lbs. Mini, Medium and Standard are defined by size the offspring are expected to mature to. For example, Goldendoodles can mature to be 3 different sizes depending which variety of poodle that was used in the crossing. On backcrosses, second generation crosses if two different size varieties are bred, we will define the litter as the middle of the three or smaller of the two. Although the dog may mature to more than that expected size, from a genetic stand point it is important not to discount the dogs genetic ability to produce smaller.

The generation number of the designer/hybrid dog will be noted as F1, F1b, F2, F2b, M or MGB. These are defined as follows.

F1 = 1st generation puppy
This puppy is 50% pure breed A and 50% pure breed B, e.g., a Golden Retriever and Poodle cross = F1 Golden Doodle

F1b = back cross puppy
This puppy is 25% pure breed A and 75% pure breed B, e.g., an F1 Goldendoodle and Poodle cross= F1b Golden Doodle


F2 = second generation puppy.
This puppy is a F1 hybrid dog crossed with an F1 hybrid dog, e.g., an F1 Goldendoodle crossed with an F1 Golden doodle = F2 Golden Doodle


F2b = second generation back cross puppy .
This puppy is a F1 bred to a F1b (hybrid back cross)


F3 = F2 hybrid to F2 hybrid


M=Multi-generation Hybrid.
This puppy is a F3 or higher generation hybrid dog crossed with F3 or higher generation hybrid dog

MGB = (all dogs in this catagory are over 85% of one breed)
This can be achieved by a F1b dog bred to purebred dog of the same majority breed in the F1b dog (e.g. F1b Golden Doodle crossed with a Poodle = MGB Golden Doodle
Also by any MGB dog then again crossed with the majority breed again.
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bill wright
#8
thats just ridiculous,you have a ,mix,no need to get it registered.spay the dog and forget about it.sorry if i come off harsh but im old school and i see things that way.i cant stand people mixing pit bulls with other dogs,it doesnt improve them.but what the others arent telling you is that razors edge dogs are mixed as well.they have their own registry ,American Bully Kennel Club,dave wilson came out and admitted that razors edge dogs are not american pit bull terriers or pit bulls,they are ambully's.
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Constance joan wood
#9
I own a boxer and would never concider breeding her to anything else but another boxer I am sick to death with all this hybrid and desiner dog crap sorry to be all out but I rescue dogs all the time and as far as I am concerned unless your dog is a singal kinda breed its a mutt..don't get me wrong I love all dogs but you never breed one breed to another just to make a name for your self or change what your breed is if you don't like the breed don't get that breed get what suits you to meny people breed to make a new kinda dog sell it for hundreds of dollars and never think about what that could do to the puppies health. or that it changes the breeds temperment. silly silly people.
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MolosserConnoisseur
#10
Let us not forget, friends, the following:

(http://www.pitbull411.com/history.html):

Like many modern breeds, it is impossible to be completely sure of the details of the American Pit Bull Terrier's long history. However, many pit bull enthusiasts believe the origins of the breed can be traced back to antiquity and the Molossian family of dogs. The Molossian family of dogs bears the name of the people with whom they were most often associated - the Molossi tribe, a group of people who lived in ancient Greece and favored the use of robust, muscular dogs in warfare. Officially termed canus molossi (dogs of the Molossi), these animals were reknowned for their fierceness, and for their innate ability to intimidate the enemies of the tribe.

During this same time period, it is also believed that the Molossian dogs were used for other purposes. In fact, early Phoenician traders may even have used the Molossians as a bargaining item in their commercial transactions.

The Molossians gave rise to another family of dogs known as the Mastiffs. The early Britons employed a variation of the Mastiffs as pugnaces - fighting dogs that could be used in either a guardianship or warfare capacity. When the Roman emperor Claudius defeated the Briton Chief Caractacus in 50 AD, the powerful pugnaces piqued his interest. He quickly seized on the opportunity and began exporting select quantities of the dogs back home to satiate his countrymen's appetite for entertainment in the arenas and coliseums of Rome.

Once in Rome, the British dogs were crossbred with their Roman counterparts. From the years 50 AD to 410 AD, the breed was widely disseminated throughout the Roman Empire for use as fighting dogs. Along the way they mixed with other indigenous breeds throughout Europe, creating a genetic melting pot for the bulldogs that are thought to have been the immediate antecedents of the American Pit Bull Terrier."

With that being said, let us please not forget that even our beloved APBT stemmed from.... OTHER breeds. Stating a new breed can not become a new breed because we have enough already, simply doesn't do justice to the historical proofs that show that this is in fact how we have the breeds we do today.


Anyone fans of Molosser breeds as a whole? Remember the now extinct Bullenbeisser (sp?)? Ancestor to the Boxer and I think the German Great Dane.. These can be brought up in EVERY breed, with some ancestors not being extinct. Now, it is more of a coexisting of established breeds and hybrid breeds. I'm sure some with rise and fall (like the labor-doodle, which as ridiculous as I think it looks, offers a dander free alternative to the lab, with a less thoroughbred hunting type dog as the large poodles) but a couple are destined to be here in a century. While the APBT might not be being "bettered", are the breeds that are compatible with the APBT to an extent and being bred not receiving some of the hardy and superior traits of the APBT?

I am in no way, shape, or manner condoning the hybridizing of dogs (even though we do so with apples, other fruits, and a TON of other living things) but rather the cohabitation and tolerance that hasn't existed in the history of US as a race, not the dogs.

Not quite sure why I felt my opinion necessary to state, I just supposed I felt the irony in crucifying the practice that gave us the amazing breed we own today was kind of errk-ing. 

Rant over =D And with that off of my chest, PROBABLY SHOULD NOT GO ON AN APBT SITE ASKING ABOUT A HALF BREED.... Maybe they have Bullboxer or Boxerbull forums Wink

Last update on August 25, 9:56 pm by MolosserConnoisseur.
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