Gary Nussel
#0
what are your beliefs about the american bully are they pit bulls or mutts???????and does the apbr register them????you kmow where i stand i want to know where you stand
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Beautiful Bully Kennels
#14
DON'T FORGET HOG HUNTING BULL BAITING, AND ALL AROUND FARMERS HELPER.  THEY WHERE BREED IN IRELAND AND ENGLAND TO HELP FARMERS WITH ANY JOB, THEY WHERE THE ALL AROUND WORKING DOG AND STILL ARE.  LIKE CHOCCACON SAID ITS THE ALL MIGHTY MAN WHO TOOK THAT DRIVE AND HEART THAT MADE THEM A GOOD WORKING DOG AND FOUGHT IT. AN APBT, AMSTAFF, AND AMBULLY WILL COMPLETE ANYTHING PUT IN FRONT OF THEM IT DEPENDS ON THE DOG NOT THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE DOG.  LIKE I SAID MY SO CALLED BULLY GIRL HAS MORE HEART AND DRIVE THEN SOME GAMES.  I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT CLASSIFY HER AS A BULLY AT ALL SHE IS TALL AND LEAN SHE HAS WIDTH TO HER LIKE A BULLY BUT SHE MOVES AND HAS HEART OF A GAME.  I LOVE THEM ALL AND WILL BREED AND OWN ALL. 
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Beautiful Bully Kennels
#15
I AGREE WITH CHOCCACON 100%  MY PERFECT VIEW OF A PITBULL IS DIFFERENT AND WILL BE DIFFERENT THEN SOMEONE ELSE DOESN'T MEAN MY IDEA IS BETTER OR WORSE OR MY DOG IS NOT PUREBRED OR  THERE'S IS NOT.  MY SIMBA IS WHAT I THINK IS PERFECT TO ME. HE'S BIG STRONG AGILE WIDE LEAN HE IS SMACK IN BETWEEN BOTH APBT AND AMBULLY HE HAS HEART BUT ALSO CAN BE A GOOD HOUSE PET AND IS GREAT WITH OTHER DOGS. HE IS WHAT I WANT TO BREED FOR. 
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bill wright
#16
It may be selective breeding,selecting the right english bulldog to breed to the select brood bitch,then selecting the right papers to hang the ped off of.the whole colby argument just doesnt work for me,look at a colby dog,look at a pit bull and you still cant breed down to what is being put out there.
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choccacon
#17
BILL,BILL,BILL.LONG BEFORE WE HAD EVER OWNED A BULLY...WE BRED GAME DOGS FOR MANY YEARS.BLOODLINES LIKE ZEBO-CRENSHAW-BOUDREAUX-WOODS-SORRELL.AND ONCE IN AWHILE WE'D HAVE A PUP FROM A LITTER THAT WAS A ODD BALL.AS BULLY AS THEY COME.... WE'D SAY-WHERE IN THE WORLD DID THAT COME FROM?!!! OUR FULL ZEBO MALE 'TOBY' WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE...NOT OVER 17"TALL AND SUPER THICK AND WIDE W/ A LARGE BULLY HEAD.HIS PARENTS WERE OWNED AND BRED BY ONE OF THE OLDEST DOG MEN AROUND HERE.YES-HE WAS A GAME DOG MAN,AND A DOG FIGHTER!! YOU CAN HAVE A THROW BACK IN ANY BREED.
LOOK AT THE MINATURE HORSES.THEY ARE FULL BLOODED HORSE. CALL THEM THE 'POCKET' HORSE.BUT YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT THEY ARE FULL BLOODED HORSE.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE 'LITTLE' PEOPLE IN THE HUMAN WORLD.ARE THEY NOT 100% HUMAN EVEN THROUGH THEY ARE MUCH SMALLER/SHORTER THAN THE REST OF US?
 
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Beautiful Bully Kennels
#18
I agree! this argument I have with a lot of people.  Not saying people don't falsify paper work we know they do.  but you cannot condemn every AM bully for this.  I have seen selective breeding in any dog breed German Shepard use to be a 60lbs dog about 23-26inches tall look at them now over the years American have breed them bigger and more aggressive they where hearers that were used in WWII now cop dogs.  Americans breed everything bigger its a known fact. Look at the American Lab as apposed to the English lab. Your American Lab is bigger and taller.  Its all what we do to it, it doesn't make it wrong or write it doesn't make it pure or not pure.
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choccacon
#19
I AM NOT SAYING SOME PEOPLE DO NOT MIX A PIT WITH ANOTHER BREED TO GET WHAT THEY WANT IN THE DOG....TAKING A SHORT CUT TO GET QUICK RESULTS INSTEAD OF WAITING AND BREEDING GENERATIONS TO ACHIVE THE STYLE OF  DOG THEY WANT,THE RIGHT WAY.
I PERSONALLY KNOW OF A BREEDER IN THE NEIGHBORING TOWN THAT STARTED OUT WITH SOME OF THE BEST APBTS AROUND.GORGEOUS DOGS WITH TOP OF THE LINE PEDIGREES.NOW HE HAS SOLD ALL HIS ORIGINAL STOCK AND IS GETTING INTO THE XXXL APBTS.NO DOUBT AFTER LOOKING AT THESE DOGS, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN BRED FROM APBTS/ MASTIFFS.MONSTER DOGS W/ BIG FLEASHY HEADS-FOLDS EVERY WHERE-SLOPPY LIPS/MOUTHS,DROOPY EYES.
MIXING THE DIFFERENT BREEDS AND HANGING PAPERS IS AS WRONG AS IT GETS....BUT WHEN 2 FULL BLOOD PITS THROW A PUP OR PUPS THAT DON'T FIT THE STYLE OF PIT AS THE PARENTS...IT IS STILL A PUREBRED. NO MATTER HOW IT TURNS OUT.
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MolosserConnoisseur
#20
Perfectly said.

Anomalies allow traits to expose odd tendencies (ie: blindness, skin issues, BULLYNESS).

If instead of culling these dogs, you breed them with an anomaly from a different breeder's litter, you just changed the dynamic.
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Gary Nussel
#21
wow this is a hot subject
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Blaze_N_Pits
#22
I agree this is a hot subject and we've all been through this many times and it never changes any ones views lol. I didn't mean to make this another big debate.... I just wanted to get the point accross that not every dog with APBT bloodlines and AmStaff bloodlines is or should be considered AmBully. Our male has both and will never be called an AmBully. If he has every trait that a true APBT should and he is registered as an APBT... then that's what he is. Shoot, he looks more like a dog with pure APBT bloodlines than half of the pics I've seen online of pure APBTs lol.
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bill wright
#23
We all have our opinions and thats what makes us great. I may not agree with everybody here on certain things but i would damn sure drink a beer with them because we all have something in common.
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Beautiful Bully Kennels
#24
Beer who's buying?  Have van will travel.  LOL 

but on a serious note: We all have a passion for this breed and other like it. We all have there best interest at heart.  A good debate is healthy. We cannot all be the same and neither can our dogs.What kind of world would that be?
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bill wright
#25
a horrible one. funny i used to havce a van with a full size bed in the back, i wanted to live in it down by the river.now im married and have a kid,funny how plans change.
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choccacon
#26
BILL. I WILL TAKE A BUDWEISER...MAKE IT ICE COLD!!LOL
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MolosserConnoisseur
#27
I know a few people that live on the beach in Hawaii; they might have had the right idea.

It's pretty great that nobody gets too bent out of shape on here. It feels like the running rule here on PBS is if you purport an idea, just be able to back up your reasoning.

Fair enough really, and I enjoy our variety of viewpoints; it's how I have learned so much from on here already!

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Gary Nussel
#28
wow i need a beer too i just got off work lolz
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